To: ULTRALIGHT-FLIGHT@inslab.uky.edu Subject: Re: Sound off: Date: Mon, 04 Dec 1995 09:14:29 -0500 From: A Phillips A wannabe just 'cos I don't have the place to stow a UL. I live in an apartment. I'm have a PPL and fly Piper Tomahawks. phillips@openmarket.com/Boston,MA,USA/no-UL-yet/Software Consultant ______________________________________________________________________________ Avinash Phillips _____ Res : (617) AVI-P648 _|_ Off : (617) 252-3491 __________( * )__________ Fax : (617) 252-3427 / `-' \ Email: phillips@openmarket.com O O Http : www.openmarket.com 370 - i feel the NEED for SPEED ______________________________________________________________________________ X-Sender: aam@wlcomms.nwl.ac.uk Date: Mon, 04 Dec 1995 08:39:16 +0000 To: ultralight-flight@inslab.uky.edu From: Andrew McKenzie Subject: Re: How far do we reach? A.Mckenzie@bgs.ac.uk/Wallingford, Oxfordshire, UK/Thruster TST/Geologist Sorry to hear about Charles' prang. Wishing him a speedy recovery. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Andrew McKenzie e-mail: A.McKenzie@bgs.ac.uk Hydrogeology Group Tel: +44 (0) 1491 692295 (Direct) +44 (0) 1491 838800 (Switchboard) Fax: +44 (0) 1491 692345 ------------British Geological Survey, Wallingford, UK-------------- From: Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 17:19:16 -0500 To: KIMOjim@aol.com, ultralight-flight@inslab.uky.edu Subject: Re: How far do we reach? Jerry Avis; Yoncalla, Oregon USA; Sabre trike, Pres., etc; AVIS AUTO Inc. Date: Sun, 3 Dec 1995 16:48:03 -0800 X-Sender: benny@uclink4.berkeley.edu To: ULTRALIGHT-FLIGHT@inslab.uky.edu From: Benny Easton Subject: Re: Sound off: (was Re: Lookin' forward to Weekend) >> > >> It would be nice to see how far the list really reaches. How about a total >> soundoff by even the lurkers. >> >> handle/ city,state,country/flying what/profrssion >> benny/ bonita,berkeley, CA, USA/ Quicksilver, Arrow, Seminole/ Student _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/ _/ Benny Easton-KD6CHA _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/benny@uclink4.berkeley.edu_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/benny@soda.berkeley.edu _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/beaston@ocf.berkeley.edu _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/PP-SEL, IA _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ Date: Sun, 3 Dec 1995 16:55:37 -0800 X-Sender: benny@uclink4.berkeley.edu To: ULTRALIGHT-FLIGHT@inslab.uky.edu From: Benny Easton Subject: Re: Soundoff (Temps) At 07:29 PM 12/3/95 -0600, you wrote: >Don Ramsey/ Huntsville, AL, USA/ Heavy arm-flapping (puff, puff) :-)/ Engineer >Temps: Winter: 10degF Summer: 95-103degF Now: 40-60degF > That's it! I thought I would be a nice generous guy by not mentioning that I live in San Diego and making you all weep and pout because, as everyone knows, San Diego has the best weather in the entire United States. This last comment, however, made me decide to forgo my kindness and let you all suffer. Life is cruel. Temps: Winter: 70 deg F Summer: 70 deg F Now: 70 deg F Winds: WHAT WINDS? Clouds: Never seen 'em. Go ahead: Put your head down and cry. Let it all out, then come take a trip to San Diego and see what real flying weather is all about. Sincerely, _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/ _/ Benny Easton-KD6CHA _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/benny@uclink4.berkeley.edu_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/benny@soda.berkeley.edu _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/beaston@ocf.berkeley.edu _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/PP-SEL, IA _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 00:20:42 -0800 X-Sender: benny@uclink4.berkeley.edu To: From: Benny Easton Subject: Re: Soundoff (Temps)/Miles Cc: ULTRALIGHT-FLIGHT@inslab.uky.edu At 11:04 PM 12/3/95 PST, you wrote: >>That's it! I thought I would be a nice generous guy by not mentioning that >>I live in San Diego and making you all weep and pout because, as everyone >>knows, San Diego has the best weather in the entire United States. This >>last comment, however, made me decide to forgo my kindness and let you all >>suffer. Life is cruel. >> >>Temps: Winter: 70 deg F Summer: 70 deg F Now: 70 deg F Winds: WHAT WINDS? >> Clouds: Never seen 'em. >> >>Go ahead: Put your head down and cry. Let it all out, then come take a >>trip to San Diego and see what real flying weather is all about. > >Sounds pretty good to me. I once visited Sandy Eggo. Back in '83, >I think. It was very nice. I visited the Sandy Eggo zoo. Don't >remember much else, though. :) > >Where do you fly out of, Benny? > >--Jim > jre@campus.mci.net I mostly fly GA. I live in Bonita (about 10 miles north of the border), and I fly out of Carlsbad (CRQ)- about 40 miles north of Bonita. The reason for this is that the plane is hangared at CRQ and we found a really good mechanic there. When I fly ultralights (which I haven't in a LONG time), there's a field near Dulzura (out East) that has a some dirt runways and UL instruction. Then, of course, there's always Warner Springs and Hemet for Gliders :) Also, to answer your question about nautical and statute miles (or confuse you further ;-) , 1 knot (nautical mile per hour) is approximately 1.151 statute miles (per hour). Knots are mainly used for marine (and unfortunately aviation) purposes and there's some special significance between a knot and a degree of latitute at the equator--I forgot exactly what it was. Statute miles are what we normally refer to as a "mile" or a "mile per hour." Most people always deal with statute miles (unless they're pilots or boaters), and most aviation stuff is in nautical miles. That's why all the FAR's and the AIM and all other aviation publications specify which one- otherwise everyone would get confused like I am right now. Hope this helps. _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/ _/ Benny Easton-KD6CHA _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/benny@uclink4.berkeley.edu_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/benny@soda.berkeley.edu _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/beaston@ocf.berkeley.edu _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/PP-SEL, IA _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ Date: Tue, 5 Dec 95 08:17:45 PST To: ultralight-flight@inslab.uky.edu From: "BERG.G" Subject: How far do we reach? gberg@boole.com/Tracy, CA, US/wannabe/Systems Software Developer I hope to buy a UL an be flying in about a 1-2 years. Gotta get the funds set aside first. ------------------------- Forwarded letter follows-------------------------- Received: from Gateway.Boole.COM by BBSYSB (IBM MVS SMTP V3R1) with TCP; Sun, 03 Dec 95 09:28:59 LCL Received: from BOOLE.COM ([137.72.1.220]) by Gateway.Boole.COM (8.6.12/8.6.10.2-mta0) with SMTP id JAA11051 for ; Sun, 3 Dec 1995 09:28:40 -0800 Received: from BBNA-Message_Server by BOOLE.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Sun, 03 Dec 1995 09:31:59 -0800 Received: from Gateway.Boole.COM (daemon@localhost) by Gateway.Boole.COM (8.6.12/8.6.10.2-mta0) with ESMTP id JAA11043 for ; Sun, 3 Dec 1995 09:27:38 -0800 Received: from inslab.uky.edu (simpatico.inslab.uky.edu [128.163.129.111]) by Gateway.Boole.COM (8.6.12/8.6.12-mta1) with ESMTP id JAA11039 for ; Sun, 3 Dec 1995 09:27:38 -0800 Received: from mail02.mail.aol.com by inslab.uky.edu (8.6.12/NX3.0M) id LAA05474; Sun, 3 Dec 1995 11:56:21 -0500 From: Received: by mail02.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA11843 for ultralight-flight@inslab.uky.edu; Sun, 3 Dec 1995 11:55:49 -0500 Date: Sun, 3 Dec 1995 11:55:49 -0500 Message-ID: <951203115548_63307983@mail02.mail.aol.com> To: ultralight-flight@inslab.uky.edu Subject: How far do we reach? It would be nice to see how far the list really reaches. How about a total soundoff by even the lurkers. handle/ city,state,country/flying what/profession KIMOjim@aol.com/ Marshall, MI, USA / 3 Quicksilvers / Aero Engineer,CEO Aero Sports Connection Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 08:37:38 -0600 From: Bill Landucci To: ultralight-flight@inslab.uky.edu Subject: How far do we reach? BillLanducci/Verona,WI/Challeger II/Electrical Eng. From: Blair Lamothe Subject: Re: How far do we reach ? To: ultralight-flight@inslab.uky.edu (Ultralight Mailing List) Date: Sun, 3 Dec 95 15:33:20 CST Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] I think the tagline says it all. ========================================================================= Blair Lamothe, Meteorologist lamotheb@desoto.wxe.sk.doe.ca Saskatchewan Environmental Services Centre (306) 975-6930 Cuby II C-FTEB ========================================================================= From: Date: Sun, 3 Dec 1995 19:59:40 -0500 To: KIMOjim@aol.com, ultralight-flight@inslab.uky.edu Subject: Re: How far do we reach? bleddy@aol.com/Sacramento, CA USA/Sabre Trike/Manager X-Sender: brumstik@pop.interaccess.com Date: Tue, 05 Dec 1995 20:54:24 -0600 To: ULTRALIGHT-FLIGHT@inslab.uky.edu From: brumstik@interaccess.com (Broomstick) Subject: Roll Call handle/ city,state,country/flying what/profession brumstik@interaccess.com Chicago, IL USA any trainer equipped w/instructor I can find/rent/sneak-off-in-the-night-with BUT am looking at a nice lil' T-bird in my price range at present writer/artist/insurance analyst/smart ass YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE-HA! Great idea, KIMOJim. Just what I needed - 110 e-mails in my box tonight with promise of more to come. Someone gonna archive these babies or what? Maybe assemble into giant list available through FTP as a curiosity? I'd volunteer for the project but I just don't have the time right now, honest. ======================================================================== >---Broomstick--- | >sigh<....still on the ground ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 23 Oct 1995 23:05:50 -0700 To: ultralight-flight@inslab.uky.edu From: ballen@earthlink.net (Bryan L. Allen) Subject: Re: Human Powered Vehicals eugene@linux.nildram.co.uk wrote: >On 22 Oct 95 at 23:15, Bryan L. Allen wrote: >> sbauman@saunix.sau.edu (Scott Bauman) wrote: >> >> >Has anyone ever experimented with building a human powered flying >> >vehical? >> >I would appreciate any helpful and handy advice for this novice! >> >> Why don't you tell us something about yourself and your goals first. >> Where do you live? What applicable experience (model building, >> flying) do you have? What do you expect to do with this device? Who >> else can you enlist in your local area to help you? And just who is >> selling such kits, anyway? >> >Am I mistaken, or are you the Bryan Allen who has pedalled himself >over the Channel and performed other such feats?? Are you going to >let Scott Bauman down gently as to the ease of human-powered flight? But it's not THAT hard! Really! It just depends on what tradeoffs one is willing to make. Unfortunately, the cost-per-minute-of flight ratio is not too good, even with a pedal-powered blimp, but then that's one of the tradeoffs... And yes, I am THAT Bryan Allen, but nowadays I work more on exploring Mars than I do on flying (I work at JPL on the Mars Global Surveyor project due to launch in November 1996. See http://www-mgs.jpl.nasa.gov/ And I fly paragliders, though I am only a beginner. Bryan L. Allen ballen@earthlink.net Altadena, Calif. USA Date: Sun, 3 Dec 1995 18:33:25 -0800 To: ultralight-flight@inslab.uky.edu From: ballen@earthlink.net (Bryan L. Allen) Subject: Re: How far do we reach? Cc: KIMOjim@aol.com >It would be nice to see how far the list really reaches. How about a total >soundoff by even the lurkers. > >handle/ city,state,country/flying what/profession ballen@earthlink.net / Altadena, Calif., USA / Beginning Paragliderist, various prior thingies incl. PPL / Ground Data System, Mars Global Surveyor From: Date: Sun, 3 Dec 1995 23:03:25 -0500 To: ultralight-flight@inslab.uky.edu Subject: Re: How far do we reach? In a message dated 95-12-03 21:40:09 EST, you write: >handle/ city,state,country/flying what/profession > > Cap10zoom@aol.com (Jim Campbell)/ Winter haven FL, USA/Ultra-Pup, Snobird, Mooney M20C, Christen Eagle, Glastar (Under construction)/Aviation Magazine Publisher (US Aviator) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 95 18:55:25 EST From: Chuck Goodrum X-Minuet-Version: Minuet1.0_Beta_17A X-Popmail-Charset: English To: ultralight-flight@ms.uky.edu Subject: Sounding off TRIKEMAN/Atlanta,Georgia,USA/Jet Wing Trike/College Counselor & TRIKES R US Publisher. Date: 4 Dec 95 10:54 GMT X400-Trace: us*infonet*cna; Arrival 4 Dec 95 10:54 GMT Action: Relayed X400-Trace: us*infonet*msmail88; Arrival 4 Dec 95 10:54 GMT Action: Relayed Priority: normal UA-Content-ID: P1-Message-ID: us*infonet*cna;9204D1A4 Original-Encoded-Information-Types: IA5-Text From: "Conley,Kevin" To: ultralight-flight-errors@inslab.uky.edu Cc: ultralight-flight@inslab.uky.edu Subject: RE: Kevin Conley here; Chicago, Il. Wanta be, since I haven't flown in over 13 years. Had PPL, and then Kids and all. As soon as my wife gets through with Grad school (MBA) I've been promised a reciprocal " benefit of equal value" i.e. I can FLYyyyyyyyyyyy! ---------- From: ultraligh3 To: ultraligh0 Date: Monday, December 04, 1995 6:15AM >>It would be nice to see how far the list really reaches. How about a total >>soundoff by even the lurkers. >> >>handle/ city,state,country/flying what/profession Gwyn Carwardine/Surrey,UK/Pegasus XL and Raven X trikes/Sys Prog, IT Security Consultant & AFI From: Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 08:56:05 -0500 To: ultralight-flight@inslab.uky.edu Subject: Re: How far do we reach? DavidC8438@aol.com/Osceola, Indiana/USA/flying Buckey Powered Parachute, building Streak Shadow/Computer Tech Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 11:23:28 -0500 X-Sender: dttor038@[1.135.245.49] To: ultralight-flight@inslab.uky.edu From: dtuer@toronto.cbc.ca (Don) Subject: Re: How far do we reach? DTuer@toronto.cbc.ca/ Toronto, Ontario, Canada/ Challenger II on Full Lotus floats/ Telecommunications manager htt://infinity-online.com/~dtaadv/dtaadv.html Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 13:10:10 -0600 To: ultralight-flight@inslab.uky.edu From: granlund@netmon.monsanto.com (Don Granlund) Subject: Re: How far do we reach? granlund@netmon.monsanto.com/Waukegan, IL/ Cobra / Software Eng/ Date: Sun, 3 Dec 1995 19:29:03 -0600 X-Sender: dramsey@ro.com To: ultralight-flight@inslab.uky.edu From: Don Ramsey Subject: Soundoff >It would be nice to see how far the list really reaches. How about a total >soundoff by even the lurkers. > >handle/ city,state,country/flying what/profrssion > >KIMOjim@aol.com/ Marshall, MI, USA / 3 Quicksilvers / Aero Engineer,CEO Aero >Sports Connection Don Ramsey/ Huntsville, AL, USA/ Heavy arm-flapping (puff, puff) :-)/ Engineer Temps: Winter: 10degF Summer: 95-103degF Now: 40-60degF Date: Sun, 3 Dec 1995 20:46:21 -0600 X-Sender: dramsey@ro.com To: ULTRALIGHT-FLIGHT@inslab.uky.edu From: Don Ramsey Subject: Re: Soundoff (Temps) Ha! Benny, you got me. I wasn't trying to brag, though, I just thought it might be interesting to see the hi/low/present temps of where people live. I agree with your brag about the weather but some friends brought back some Realtor lit from a biz trip to CA and your basic 150K two bedroom house can be gotten here for about 45-55k. So I guess it all evens out. :-) -- Don at dramsey@ro.com At 04:55 PM 12/3/95 -0800, you wrote: >At 07:29 PM 12/3/95 -0600, you wrote: > >>Don Ramsey/ Huntsville, AL, USA/ Heavy arm-flapping (puff, puff) :-)/ Engineer >>Temps: Winter: 10degF Summer: 95-103degF Now: 40-60degF >> >That's it! I thought I would be a nice generous guy by not mentioning that >I live in San Diego and making you all weep and pout because, as everyone >knows, San Diego has the best weather in the entire United States. This >last comment, however, made me decide to forgo my kindness and let you all >suffer. Life is cruel. > >Temps: Winter: 70 deg F Summer: 70 deg F Now: 70 deg F Winds: WHAT WINDS? > Clouds: Never seen 'em. > >Go ahead: Put your head down and cry. Let it all out, then come take a >trip to San Diego and see what real flying weather is all about. > >Sincerely, > _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ > _/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/ _/ Benny Easton-KD6CHA _/ > _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/benny@uclink4.berkeley.edu_/ > _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/benny@soda.berkeley.edu _/ > _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/beaston@ocf.berkeley.edu _/ > _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/PP-SEL, IA _/ >_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ > > > From: Date: Mon, 04 Dec 1995 11:05:38 -0500 To: ultralight-flight@inslab.uky.edu Subject: Re: Sound off: >> It would be nice to see how far the list really reaches. How about a total >> soundoff by even the lurkers. >> >> handle/ city,state,country/flying what/profrssion >> Oh no, I feel the new junk mail coming to my mailbox already but what the heck. Snyderman a.k.a. David Snyder Springfield, Ohio USA '46 Cessna 140, plus whatever used U/L I eventually find to buy Computer Engineering Manager, building flight simulators for the Air Force at Wright-Patterson AFB Contributing to the net bandwidth test! Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 11:20:47 -0500 (EST) From: Glenn Lechner To: ultralight-flight@inslab.uky.edu Subject: Re: How far do we reach ? Organization: GMI Engineering&Management Institute - Flint MI glechner@nova.gmi.edu/ Flint, Michigan/ Buckeye 503 Powered Parachute/ Electronic Technician -------------------------------------------------------------- |Glenn T. Lechner | | |GMI Engineering & Management Inst. | glechner@nova.gmi.edu | |Telecommunications / Electronics | Amateur Radio NV8T | |1700 W. Third Avenue | | |Flint, Michigan 48504 | "I'd rather be flying | |810-762-9753 | my BUCKEYE | |http://www.gmi.edu/~glechner | powered parachute" | -------------------------------------------------------------- From: Date: Sun, 3 Dec 95 16:57:51 EST To: ultralight-flight@inslab.uky.edu Subject: handle/ city,state,country/flying what/profession No nickname yet / Lexington, KY, USA / took my first lesson 3 weeks ago in a Quicksilver MXL II sport (man, was it cold, unlike my intro flight in Cancun ;-) / business planner That day 3 weeks ago was the first time I met Charlie Boehnlein. Too cold for him to fly - so he cooked chile for the rest of the gang. Sad to hear of his misfortune :-( Greg Mason From: Date: Mon, 04 Dec 1995 05:31:41 EST To: ultralight-flight@inslab.uky.edu >>It would be nice to see how far the list really reaches. How about a total >>soundoff by even the lurkers. >> >>handle/ city,state,country/flying what/profession Gwyn Carwardine/Surrey,UK/Pegasus XL and Raven X trikes/Sys Prog, IT Security Consultant & AFI X-Sender: cdhgd@hpc Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 08:40:54 +0100 To: ultralight-flight@inslab.uky.edu From: Howard Denton (H.G.Denton) Subject: Sound - off 83 messages when I switched on this morning! - Curse you W J Collie! :-) Oh well - may as well join the throng. Howard Denton. Loughborough University, United Kingdom, Flying a Mainair Flash 1 trike with the Derby and Nottinghamshire Microlight club from Hougham. University Lecturer. Now may we return to some sanity? Dr Howard G Denton Course Leader - Industrial Design and Technology with Education Loughborough University UK Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 15:52:22 -0500 (EST) From: James Key To: KIMOjim@aol.com cc: ultralight-flight@inslab.uky.edu Subject: Re: How far do we reach? Associate Professor of Movement and Leisure Studies (Phys.Ed) GA at present but UL interested. ***************************************************************** * James B. Key, D.A. jkey@cc.cumber.edu * * Cumberland College * * Williamsburg, KY 40769 (606) 549 2200 ext 4365 * ***************************************************************** On Sun, 3 Dec 1995 KIMOjim@aol.com wrote: > > It would be nice to see how far the list really reaches. How about a total > soundoff by even the lurkers. > > handle/ city,state,country/flying what/profession > > KIMOjim@aol.com/ Marshall, MI, USA / 3 Quicksilvers / Aero Engineer,CEO Aero > Sports Connection > > > > > From: jeffelis@ix.netcom.com (Jeff Ellis) To: ultralight-flight@inslab.uky.edu Subject: Re: How far do we reach? Date: Sun, 03 Dec 1995 19:09:11 GMT Organization: Netcom Reply-To: jeffelis@ix.netcom.com References: <951203115548_63307983@mail02.mail.aol.com> On Sun, 3 Dec 1995 11:55:49 -0500, you wrote: >It would be nice to see how far the list really reaches. How about a total >soundoff by even the lurkers. > >handle/ city,state,country/flying what/profession > >KIMOjim@aol.com/ Marshall, MI, USA / 3 Quicksilvers / Aero Engineer,CEO Aero >Sports Connection > jeffelis@ix.netcom.com Grandview, MO, USA Don't own a plane yet. In the market for a Rans S-12 Printing Pressman From: jeffelis@ix.netcom.com (Jeff Ellis) To: ultralight-flight@inslab.uky.edu Subject: Re: How far do we reach? Date: Sun, 03 Dec 1995 21:42:40 GMT Organization: Netcom Reply-To: jeffelis@ix.netcom.com References: <951203115548_63307983@mail02.mail.aol.com> On Sun, 3 Dec 1995 11:55:49 -0500, you wrote: > >It would be nice to see how far the list really reaches. How about a total >soundoff by even the lurkers. > >handle/ city,state,country/flying what/profession > jeffelis@ix.netcom.com/ Grandview, MO, USA/ Looking for a Rans S-12/ Offset Pressman Date: Mon, 4 Dec 95 08:27:23 PST From: jjensen@dnaco.net Subject: Re: How far do we reach? To: ultralight-flight@inslab.uky.edu Jerry Jensen/Dayton, Ohio (Morain Airpark)/ Quicksilver MXL / PP ASEL / Analyst From: Date: Tue, 5 Dec 1995 00:30:13 -0500 To: rob@ct.picker.com, ultralight-flight@inslab.uky.edu Subject: Re: How far do we reach? JJ Masters/Yelm, Wa/Hurricane/Police Sgt From: Date: Tue, 5 Dec 1995 00:30:13 -0500 To: rob@ct.picker.com, ultralight-flight@inslab.uky.edu Subject: Re: How far do we reach? JJ Masters/Yelm, Wa/Hurricane/Police Sgt From: Date: Sun, 3 Dec 1995 22:48:44 -0500 To: ultralight-flight@inslab.uky.edu Subject: Re: How far do we reach? In a message dated 95-12-03 14:39:15 EST, you write: >>handle/ city,state,country/flying what/profession JLBAKER40@aol.com/Oklahoma City, OK, US/fixing my broken Kolb FS 2 (Damn!)/USAF retired Air Traffic Controller, Program Manager Comm/Electronics Being retired just gives me more time to repair my bird (Damn!). From: Date: Mon, 4 Dec 95 10:49:13 PST To: Subject: re: soundoff too OK I'll give in to the bandwidth test. Jerry Sanders / Pismo Beach, Calif, USA / private pilot / renter, drooler of misc aircraft / Soon to be owner of STOL ? / Supervisor, Standards Laboratory / Ham operator, WB6NYS ... jls1@pge.com jls11@ix.netcom.com From: jody.clinard@nashville.com Reply-To: jody.clinard@nashville.com Subject: Re:How far? To: ultralight-flight@inslab.uky.edu Date: Mon, 4 Dec 95 23:39:05 Organization: The Nashville Exchange BBS 615-383-0727 jody.clinard@nashville.com/Franklin,Tn/MXSuper,TierraII/RadioTech Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Joe Long" To: ultralight-flight@inslab.uky.edu Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 06:46:00 -0600 Subject: Re: How far do we reach? Priority: normal > From: > Date: Sun, 3 Dec 1995 11:55:49 -0500 > To: ultralight-flight@inslab.uky.edu > Subject: How far do we reach? > > It would be nice to see how far the list really reaches. How about a total > soundoff by even the lurkers. > > handle/ city,state,country/flying what/profession > > KIMOjim@aol.com/ Marshall, MI, USA / 3 Quicksilvers / Aero Engineer,CEO Aero > Sports Connection joelong@msn.fullfeed.com/ Madison,WI,USA/nothing yet, but interested in trikes and powered parachutes/lawyer Joe Long joelong@msn.fullfeed.com http://www.msn.fullfeed.com/joelong Date: Sun, 3 Dec 1995 11:56:54 -0800 (PST) From: John Brunstein X-Sender: brunstei@netinfo.ubc.ca To: KIMOjim@aol.com cc: michael@embratel.net.br, ultralight-flight@inslab.uky.edu Subject: Sound off: (was Re: Lookin' forward to Weekend) John Brunstein; Vancouver, BC, Canada;lurking--I'm a grad student and can only (at the present) drool and contemplate flying UL's at some far-off distant time. Sure sounds great......and my folks even own a farm we dont 'use' where I could build a hanger and landing strip.... > > > It would be nice to see how far the list really reaches. How about a total > soundoff by even the lurkers. > > handle/ city,state,country/flying what/profrssion > > KIMOjim@aol.com/ Marshall, MI, USA / 3 Quicksilvers / Aero Engineer,CEO Aero > Sports Connection > > X-Sender: jkinzler@bucky.win.bright.net (Unverified) Date: Sun, 3 Dec 1995 22:04:43 -0600 To: ultralight-flight@inslab.uky.edu From: jkinzler@win.bright.net (john kinzler) Subject: Re: How far do we reach? >>It would be nice to see how far the list really reaches. How about a total >>soundoff by even the lurkers. >> >>handle/ city,state,country/flying what/profession John Kinzler/Luck,Wi./Challenger II/ high school "shop" teacher/ Date: Sun, 3 Dec 95 23:25:37 EST From: stei0302@wendy.cs.fredonia.edu (Jon N. Steiger) To: ultralight-flight@inslab.uky.edu Subject: Re: How far do we reach? > >handle/ city,state,country/flying what/profession > Jon Steiger/Forestville, NY/Saving for a FireFly/Student & Software Engineer -Jon- .-------------------------------------------------------------------------. | Jon Steiger == DoD# 1038 == USUA# A46209 == NMA# 117376 == KotWitDoDFAQ | | stei0302@cs.fredonia.edu && http://www.cs.fredonia.edu/~stei0302/ | | '96 Dakota SLT V-8, '91 FZR600R /* Just another mangy hacker */ | `-------------------------------------------------------------------------' From: Date: Sun, 3 Dec 95 23:04:40 PST Subject: Re: Soundoff (Temps) To: ULTRALIGHT-FLIGHT@inslab.uky.edu, Benny Easton >That's it! I thought I would be a nice generous guy by not mentioning that >I live in San Diego and making you all weep and pout because, as everyone >knows, San Diego has the best weather in the entire United States. This >last comment, however, made me decide to forgo my kindness and let you all >suffer. Life is cruel. > >Temps: Winter: 70 deg F Summer: 70 deg F Now: 70 deg F Winds: WHAT WINDS? > Clouds: Never seen 'em. > >Go ahead: Put your head down and cry. Let it all out, then come take a >trip to San Diego and see what real flying weather is all about. Sounds pretty good to me. I once visited Sandy Eggo. Back in '83, I think. It was very nice. I visited the Sandy Eggo zoo. Don't remember much else, though. :) Where do you fly out of, Benny? --Jim jre@campus.mci.net From: holmes1@nwsca.att.com (Judson Holmes +1 +1 708 224 2264) Date: 4 Dec 95 09:44:00 -0600 To: ULTRALIGHT-FLIGHT@inslab.uky.edu, Benny Easton Original-From: nwsca!holmes1 (Judson Holmes +1 +1 708 224 2264) Original-To: ULTRALIGHT-FLIGHT@inslab.uky.edu, Benny Easton Subject: Re: Soundoff (Temps) > That's it! I thought I would be a nice generous guy by not mentioning that > I live in San Diego and making you all weep and pout because, as everyone > knows, San Diego has the best weather in the entire United States. This > last comment, however, made me decide to forgo my kindness and let you all > suffer. Life is cruel. > Temps: Winter: 70 deg F Summer: 70 deg F Now: 70 deg F Winds: WHAT > WINDS? > Clouds: Never seen 'em. > Go ahead: Put your head down and cry. Let it all out, then come take a > trip to San Diego and see what real flying weather is all about. I used to live in the Tierrasanta area in San Diego. Although it is sunny darned near every day, the price you pay for that is - it's a desert! Flying in Southern California is like flying over the moon. Everything (except where the sprinklers are) is dry, desolate, and dead. No, I wouldn't move back there for all the tea in China. I'll never forget my cross-country move from San Diego to Illinois. As soon as I passed Denver heading east, everything turned green! Let there be life! All this time I was living in Death Valley. I'd probably rather live in S. California for 4 months out of the year (the cold ones), but I'd come back to Illinois (or some other non-desert state) for the other 8! | - - - - []-| - - - - _________________________ .====== | - - - ___ | > - - - . /| / | | Jud Holmes < . / | / __ |~~~~~~~| judson.holmes@att.com > - - .__________/ |==========| | | < (_____________//==========-----^ ------------------------- - - / \ ( ) ( ) From: holmes1@nwsca.att.com (Judson Holmes +1 +1 708 224 2264) Date: 4 Dec 95 12:26:00 -0600 Original-From: nwsca!holmes1 (Judson Holmes +1 +1 708 224 2264) To: ultralight-flight@inslab.uky.edu Subject: Re: Soundoff > >handle/ city,state,country/flying what/profession judson.holmes@att.com/ Sugar Grove, IL./ RANS S14/ AT&T Software Engineer | - - - - []-| - - - - _________________________ .====== | - - - ___ | > - - - . /| / | | Jud Holmes < . / | / __ |~~~~~~~| judson.holmes@att.com > - - .__________/ |==========| | | < (_____________//==========-----^ ------------------------- - - / \ ( ) ( ) From: holmes1@nwsca.att.com (Judson Holmes +1 +1 708 224 2264) Date: 4 Dec 95 15:20:00 -0600 Original-From: nwsca!holmes1 (Judson Holmes +1 +1 708 224 2264) To: r39511f@com.mcnet.ch, ultralight-flight@inslab.uky.edu Subject: Re: Sound-off > Fran=E7ois-X. Perroud/ Villars/Switzerland/ Quicksilver GT 500 (flying in > France, since Switzerland prohibits ultralight flying) You have to commute between countries to fly? I thought I had a long airport commute at 20 minutes! | - - - - []-| - - - - _________________________ .====== | - - - ___ | > - - - . /| / | | Jud Holmes < . / | / __ |~~~~~~~| judson.holmes@att.com > - - .__________/ |==========| | | < (_____________//==========-----^ ------------------------- - - / \ ( ) ( ) From: Date: Sun, 3 Dec 1995 11:55:49 -0500 To: ultralight-flight@inslab.uky.edu Subject: How far do we reach? It would be nice to see how far the list really reaches. How about a total soundoff by even the lurkers. handle/ city,state,country/flying what/profession KIMOjim@aol.com/ Marshall, MI, USA / 3 Quicksilvers / Aero Engineer,CEO Aero Sports Connection From: "Kirtland, Charles H." To: "'ultralight flight - everyone'" Subject: RE: How far do we reach Date: Mon, 04 Dec 95 09:34:00 est Encoding: 12 TEXT > It would be nice to see how far the list really reaches. How about a total > soundoff by even the lurkers. > > handle/ city,state,country/flying what/profession kirtlach@pdc02.sch.ge.com / Rome, GA, USA / Spitfire & Rotec Panther / Engineer Charles Kirtland also, ulflyer@aol.com Reply-To: mike@mcfly.win.net (McFly) To: brunstei@unixg.ubc.ca, KIMOjim@aol.com CC: michael@embratel.net.br, ultralight-flight@inslab.uky.edu Date: Sun, 03 Dec 1995 18:15:32 Subject: Re: Sound off: (was Re: Lookin' forward to Weekend) From: mike@mcfly.win.net (McFly) >> It would be nice to see how far the list really reaches. How about a total >> soundoff by even the lurkers. >> >> handle/ city,state,country/flying what/profrssion >> McFly/Chillicothe, OH, USA/Titan Tornado, Yak 18A/Aircraft Sales, AFI, CFII, ATP From: Date: Sat, 23 Dec 1995 21:31:09 -0500 To: ultralight-flight@inslab.uky.edu Subject: Re: Lookin' forward to Weekend meestahmoe@aol.com/Eugene, OR, USA/Trike student/Newspaper clerk, Freelance Writer Greg Baskin From: Michael Sjulstad Subject: Re: How far do we reach? To: ultralight-flight@inslab.uky.edu Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 14:57:33 -0600 (CST) Content-Length: 757 sjulstad@stolaf.edu I'm an "arm-chair" pilot, a wannabe, but no money. -- __ (<>) __ ____ // (<>) __ / ----- // (<>) __ __________ / ----- // (<>) __ Michael Sjulstad (*) ----- // (<>) __ Dir., Electronic Svcs. (*) ----- // (<>) St. Olaf College (*) ----- // Northfield, MN 55057 (*) ----- 1.507.646.3835 (*) \_ _____________ (*) / \ sjulstad@stolaf.edu ________ ------/ \_____________----------- http://www.stolaf.edu/people/sjulstad/ From: Date: Mon, 04 Dec 95 11:14:05 CST To: ultralight-flight@inslab.uky.edu Subject: Re: How far do we reach? I'm just a lurker - 130 hr PPSEL working on glider rating. Looking to build a Zenith 601HDS or maybe a Van's RV-6 if my wallet can handle it. See ya'll at Sun-N-Fun April 14-20. michael.r.grubb@sam.usace.army.mil / Mobile, AL, USA / Rent Piper Warrior & Blanik L-13, Electrical Engineer X-Sender: mikehuc@aztec.co.za Date: Mon, 04 Dec 1995 22:20:27 +0200 To: ultralight-flight@inslab.uky.edu From: mikehuc@aztec.co.za (mike huckle) Subject: How far do we reach?- Total Sound-off? > >It would be nice to see how far the list really reaches. How about a total >soundoff by even the lurkers. > >handle/ city,state,country/flying what/profession > Mike Huckle, Cape Town, South Africa. Trike-flyer,Computer mainframe field service rep Hello Ladies and Gentlemen, This request for a total soundoff is not a very good idea. If there are 350 people on this list, and each response sends 350 e-mail msgs, that adds up to one heck of a lot of msgs, all of which need to be deleted. A friend of mine expects to get connected in a few weeks time, and shortly afterwards he will probably call for a total soundoff. It will seem like a good idea to him at the time. I'll try and get him to request that instead of everyone responding to the whole list, he rather ask everyone to respond just to himself. Best Regards, Mike. Date: 03 Dec 95 19:31:47 EST From: Mike Peters <102521.2542@compuserve.com> To: UL list Subject: handle/ city,state,country/flying what/profession I hope somebody is saving all of these! Mike Peters / Dayton,Ohio, Hurricane / sailplanes / GA aircraft / Programmer/Analyst From: Date: Wed, 6 Dec 1995 11:54:07 -0500 To: ultralight-flight@inslab.uky.edu Subject: Re: How far do we reach? MI Skylion (AKA Mark Bonney)*/ Ypsilanti,MI, USA/about to take lesson #2 in a Flightstar/Medical Network Trainer *not really a lion yet--just a cub. So how long does it take to: stop 1.being blown around the sky and 2.jerking around the sky, so that I can 3. FLY around the sky? :) I never thought I'd had a coordination problem until I had to make my feet press pedals while my hand push-pulled right-left at the same time! Jeeze! (maybe lesson #2 will be better?!) :> From: Date: Wed, 6 Dec 1995 11:54:07 -0500 To: ultralight-flight@inslab.uky.edu Subject: Re: How far do we reach? MI Skylion (AKA Mark Bonney)*/ Ypsilanti,MI, USA/about to take lesson #2 in a Flightstar/Medical Network Trainer *not really a lion yet--just a cub. So how long does it take to: stop 1.being blown around the sky and 2.jerking around the sky, so that I can 3. FLY around the sky? :) I never thought I'd had a coordination problem until I had to make my feet press pedals while my hand push-pulled right-left at the same time! Jeeze! (maybe lesson #2 will be better?!) :> From: Date: Thu, 7 Dec 1995 10:30:47 -0500 To: ultralight-flight@inslab.uky.edu Subject: Fwd: Re: How far do we reach? >While you never stop being blown and jerked about the sky, you DO eventually get used to it and learn to fly anyway. After awhile it gets to be more fun than anything else (if it isn't already). Want my story of my first lesson? Flew in 20 mph winds and accidently learned how to hover during one of the gusts. Very exciting. Welcome to the club! >---Broomstick--- < The "blown around/Jerked around the sky" was my fault as much or more than mom-nature's. Once I swallowed my gum it did get a TINY bit easier to coordinate. I hope to save my hovering experience for lesson #100 (since I expect EVERY flight to be a lesson:) --------------------- Forwarded message: From: brumstik@interaccess.com (Broomstick) To: MISkyLion@aol.com Date: 95-12-07 03:28:12 EST >MI Skylion (AKA Mark Bonney)*/ Ypsilanti,MI, USA/about to take lesson #2 in a >Flightstar/Medical Network Trainer > >*not really a lion yet--just a cub. So how long does it take to: stop >1.being blown around the sky and 2.jerking around the sky, so that I can 3. >FLY around the sky? :) I never thought I'd had a coordination problem until >I had to make my feet press pedals while my hand push-pulled right-left at >the same time! Jeeze! >(maybe lesson #2 will be better?!) :> Got some good news and some bad news for you.... First the good news: it DOES get better. But not for the reason you think. Bad news: you will ALWAYS be tossed around to some extent. While you never stop being blown and jerked about the sky, you DO eventually get used to it and learn to fly anyway. After awhile it gets to be more fun than anything else (if it isn't already). Want my story of my first lesson? Flew in 20 mph winds and accidently learned how to hover during one of the gusts. Very exciting. Welcome to the club! >---Broomstick--- From: Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 08:08:27 -0500 To: ultralight-flight@inslab.uky.edu Subject: Re: How far do we reach? On Sun, 3 Dec 1995 11:55:49 -0500, you wrote: >It would be nice to see how far the list really reaches. How about a total >soundoff by even the lurkers. OffcrNGent@aol.com / Charlotte, NC, USA / Waiting for (ordered) MiniMax Plans / IS/LAN Mgr, for Architectural/Engineering Firm Date: Mon, 4 Dec 95 12:11:50 EST From: p.hazen@pt.com (Phil Hazen) Apparently-To: ultralight-flight@inslab.uky.edu To: --------- The following is a converted OFFICEPOWER mail message ---------- To: inslab.uky.edu!ultralight-flight@ptsys1 CC: Subject: Re: How far do we reach? New [*] Codes: [ ] Message: Phil Hazen/Rochester, NY (Spencerport Airpark)/CGS Hawk, Piper Tripacer/PP ASEL&S/Engineer Priority: 2 Delivery Acknowledge [ ] View Acknowledge [ ] From: Phil Hazen By: pmh@ptsys1 Attachment [ ] Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 08:26:32 -0700 X-Sender: broberts@condor.cs.mci.com To: ultralight-flight@inslab.uky.edu From: "R. Bruce Roberts" Subject: Re: How far do we reach? OK, I'll give mine. broberts (Bruce)/Colorado Springs, CO, USA/cessnas now, trike wannabe/software system engineer. From: Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 21:33:43 +0100 X-Sender: bjperrou@mail.mcnet.ch To: ultralight-flight@inslab.uky.edu Subject: Sound-off François-X. Perroud/ Villars/Switzerland/ Quicksilver GT 500 (flying in France, since Switzerland prohibits ultralight flying) Date: Mon, 4 Dec 95 12:39 GST X-Sender: coffee@saba.kuentos.guam.net To: ultralight-flight@inslab.uky.edu From: coffee@kuentos.guam.net (Rich Harman) Subject: Re: How far do we reach? Just lurking now, maybe a Challenger w/floats in about a year. coffee@kuentos.guam.net/ Guam, USA (Lat N13.28.54 Lon E144.47.35)/none/ small business owner _____________________________________________________________ ************************************************************* Rich Harman Hang II coffee@kuentos.guam.net Wingless ************************************************************* ŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻ Date: Tue, 5 Dec 1995 01:02:32 -0600 X-Sender: rnelson@iquest.com To: ultralight-flight@inslab.uky.edu From: Rick Nelson Subject: Re: How far do we reach? Rick Nelson/Huntsville, AL USA/MiniMax, TriPacer/Police Sergeant Rick Nelson rnelson@iquest.com http://iquest.com/~rnelson Date: Sun, 3 Dec 1995 23:23:23 +0500 From: rob@ct.picker.com (Rob Logan) To: ultralight-flight@inslab.uky.edu Subject: Re: How far do we reach? X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Content-Length: 121 > >handle/ city,state,country/flying what/profession rob@logan.com/Cleveland,Oh/CGS halk 2 place 2706/Sys Prg Rob Date: Sun, 3 Dec 1995 16:52:03 -0500 (EST) From: Robert Winfield To: KIMOjim@aol.com cc: ultralight-flight@inslab.uky.edu Subject: Re: How far do we reach? > It would be nice to see how far the list really reaches. How about a total > soundoff by even the lurkers. > > handle/ city,state,country/flying what/profession > bear/ L-5/Luna/Delta Clipper wannabe/dreamer Date: Tue, 05 Dec 1995 22:38:50 +0900 From: "Roger D. Williams" To: ultralight-flight Subject: Re: How far do we reach? roger@gol.com/Tokyo, Japan/Was Paraplane, Will be Strap-On Helicopter/CEO From: "Ron Benson" Organization: Science & Tech Univ Teesside To: ultralight-flight@inslab.uky.edu Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 09:09:13 GMT Subject: Sound off - how far do we reach X-Confirm-Reading-To: "Ron Benson" X-Pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal Ron Benson, university research technician, STILL learning to fly a Pegasus Quantum trike at Windsports Training, North Yorkshire, UK. Ron Benson School of Science and Technology University of Teesside e-mail address R.A.Benson@tees.ac.uk Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Ron Hanson" To: ultralight-flight@inslab.uky.edu Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 09:15:54 +0000 Subject: Sound off (Lurker) Reply-To: hansonrj@sciex.com Priority: normal I plan on making the transition from lurker to real UL pilot in the spring. I'm still not sure what to buy. hansonrj@sciex.com / Aurora,Ontario,Canada / pilot in training / Software Engineer/Contract Electrical Eng. ---------------------------------------------------------- Ron Hanson Internet: hansonrj@sciex.com SCIEX 71 Four Valley Drive Voice: (905) 660-9006 Ext. 402 Concord, Ontario, CANADA Fax: (905) 660-2602 L4K 4V8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Ron Hanson" To: ultralight-flight@inslab.uky.edu, Date: Wed, 6 Dec 1995 13:09:48 +0000 Subject: Re: How far do we reach? Reply-To: hansonrj@sciex.com Priority: normal > *not really a lion yet--just a cub. So how long does it take to: stop > 1.being blown around the sky and 2.jerking around the sky, so that I can 3. > FLY around the sky? :) I never thought I'd had a coordination problem until > I had to make my feet press pedals while my hand push-pulled right-left at > the same time! Jeeze! > (maybe lesson #2 will be better?!) :> This Saturday I'l be taking my third lesson I'm hoping my own coordination will improve. It's pretty embarrassing when your instructor has to say "Right Rudder, RIGHT RUDDER, NO THE OTHER RIGHT RUDDER" anyways I was going to try to buy a set of rudder peddles for the computer solely for the purpose of trying to train my feet and hands to do two different things at the same time. I gave that up when I seen that the cost of the rudder pedals cost as much as 1-1/2 flying lessons. Aaaah, no thanks I'll spend the time flying instead. :-) Ron ---------------------------------------------------------- Ron Hanson Internet: hansonrj@sciex.com SCIEX 71 Four Valley Drive Voice: (905) 660-9006 Ext. 402 Concord, Ontario, CANADA Fax: (905) 660-2602 L4K 4V8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 03 Dec 1995 21:14:28 -0800 From: Sam Buchanan To: ultralight-flight@inslab.uky.edu Subject: Re: How far do we reach? References: <951203115548_63307983@mail02.mail.aol.com> KIMOjim@aol.com wrote: > > It would be nice to see how far the list really reaches. How about a total > soundoff by even the lurkers. > > handle/ city,state,country/flying what/profession > Sam Buchanan/Athens, AL USA/Fisher Super Koala, TEAM MiniMax(for sale)/photographer Great mail-list! Date: Sun, 03 Dec 1995 22:12:04 From: deanes@gnn.com (Silas Deane) To: KIMOjim@aol.com, ultralight-flight@inslab.uky.edu Subject: Re: How far do we reach? deanes@gnn.com / Owensboro, Kentucky / Beat-up old Challenger 2-place with a lot of miles under it. / Country Club/Real Estate manager. Gave my daughter lessons this afternoon and she did great! May have to get a 2nd. plane. \~~\ \ \ _ _________________________________ _\ \ \ \ | ) / Dear Lord, Be good to me. The sky /_____ _/__\ \#|_\/ | )________/ is so big & my airplane is so small. / <____ \ \_,--\ \ \________________________________ / / 6 6 \ \ \_\ Si Deane -- Owensboro Ky. /____/ \ \ ~~~ From: Subject: Re: How far do we reach? To: ultralight-flight@inslab.uky.edu Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 09:36:19 -0800 (PST) Cc: szoharX@mcd.intel.com (Sharon Zohar) Content-Length: 316 > > On Sun, 3 Dec 1995 11:55:49 -0500, you wrote: > > > > >It would be nice to see how far the list really reaches. How about a total > >soundoff by even the lurkers. > > Sharon Zohar szoharX@mcd.intel.com / Sacramento(USA) - Haifa (Israel) /Challenger || Clip Wing Special /.. Electronic Chip Designer . Date: Mon, 04 Dec 95 11:24:35 PST From: "Tom O'Neill" Encoding: 317 Text To: ultralight-flight@inslab.uky.edu Subject: Re: How far do we reach? content-length: 309 >It would be nice to see how far the list really reaches. How about a total >soundoff by even the lurkers. toneill@horizons.com, a.k.a. Tom O'Neill / San Diego, California / flying a desk chair, dreaming of a Lockwood Air Cam / Ultralight-flight Lurker and Software Project Manager Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 01:07:55 -0600 X-Sender: jcollie@edge.ercnet.com To: ultralight-flight@inslab.uky.edu From: jcollie@edge.ercnet.com (W. J. Collie) Subject: Re: How far do we reach? > >It would be nice to see how far the list really reaches. How about a total >soundoff by even the lurkers. > >handle/ city,state,country/flying what/profession > >KIMOjim@aol.com/ Marshall, MI, USA / 3 Quicksilvers / Aero Engineer,CEO Aero >Sports Connection I'll try again. Think my first post just went to KIMOjim OK, Jim (Jim Collie)/Manchester, TN, USA/ TEAM products, 'bout to fly Cumulus prototype / Aero Engineer (self-unemployed) > Date: Thu, 7 Dec 1995 01:11:55 -0600 X-Sender: jcollie@edge.ercnet.com To: ultralight-flight@inslab.uky.edu From: jcollie@edge.ercnet.com (W. J. Collie) Subject: Re: How far do we reach? >At 01:07 AM 12/4/95 -0600, W. J. Collie wrote: > >>OK, Jim (Jim Collie)/Manchester, TN, USA/ TEAM products, 'bout to fly >>Cumulus prototype / >>Aero Engineer (self-unemployed) > >Jim, I've been wanting to buy a soarable ultralight like the cumulus for two >years now but there isn't anything suitable on the market right now. What is >the current status of the cumulus? I understand that it now has a different >wing construction than the cloud dancer. How is it constructed? I'm on the >verge of giving up and ordering an airbike, but would hold off if it looked >like the cumulus would go into production in the near future. Could you give >me a reasonable estimate of when you think it will start production. I've >heard so much BS about how soon it was going to be produced in the mags >from Dan Johnson, that I don't believe a thing he says about the cumulus >anymore. :-) > >Charlie Porter >CPorter@primenet.com >http://www.primenet.com/~cporter > Hi, Charlie - Here's the straight scoop - The prototype Cumulus will fly before Christmas - just about guaranteed. The design is significantly changed from the Cloud Dancer. Specifically: 1. New wing, built up bonded aluminum spar, new airfoil (essentially NACA 6412). Fabric covered aft of spar with full span aluminum flaperons. 2. Fuselage truss and engine mount of welded 4130. Aluminum tail boom (5" dia, instead of Cloud Dancer 4") 3. New fiberglass fuselage pod. 4. Welded steel tube tail, fabric covered. 5. Steel tube landing gear. 6. Designed to utility category standards. I'm currently working on the production plan (which incorporates lessons learned from this prototype). We are realistically expecting kits to start out the door before Sun'n'Fun. Jim Collie Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 07:12:23 -0800 (PST) From: "W. Knox Richardson" Subject: Re: How far do we reach? To: ultralight-flight@inslab.uky.edu knoxrich/Watsonville, Calif.,/MX-II/Public Relations/New BFI From: "Wayne Boncyk" Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 08:55:28 -0600 To: ultralight-flight@inslab.uky.edu (Ultralight Mailing List) Subject: Re: How far do we reach ? Still Lurkin' and Dreamin'... this here government Remote Sensing Scientist would like to get a UL platform of some kind to mount some instrumentation on, but lack of $$ keeps me from jumping in just yet...hopefully that will change soon! In the meantime, keep up the good work, folks. I'm learning a lot hangin' out here. -- Wayne ********************************************************* boncyk@edcsgw4.cr.usgs.gov -or- boncyk@dg1.cr.usgs.gov US Geological Survey, EROS Data Center Sioux Falls, SD 57198 No trees were killed to bring this msg to you! ********************************************************* From: Date: 4 Dec 95 14:03:00 -0600 To: ultralight-flight@inslab.uky.edu Subject: Re[2]: Soundoff I will reply to this only to "conform"! I sure hated the 76 messages in my mailbox this morning from these replies! > >handle/ city,state,country/flying what/profession G11405.mot.com (Bill Campbell)/ Austin, Tx./Quicksilver MX w/ 503/ Motorola Electrical Engineer Date: Mon, 04 Dec 1995 19:30:52 CST From: Zel Eaton To: Subject: Sound - Off I for one enjoy seeing who, where, what, and etc. I have hours in a Cessna 120, 150, a Colt, and a couple of others. No current lic. I am waiting until someone builds a cheap UL that can pick up a 280 pounder (me) and get off the ground. :) The sig tells the rest except I am a past board member of Sharkhunters International, Col. Confederate Airforce and Fraternal Correspondent for the Grand Lodge A.F. & A. M. of Missouri. Zel Eaton Kirksville, Missouri ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Zel Eaton Assistant Dean of Student Affairs * 112B Kirk Building / \ Northeast Missouri State University \ / \ / Kirksville, MO 63501 \/ G \/ 816-785-4141 /\ /› Soon to be Truman State University / \ / \ AD04%NEMOMUS@Academic.Nemostate.EDU / \ / \ Me, I speak only for myself.... - ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^